Comments for Debunking Atheism http://explanationblog.wordpress.com Defending the Theistic View Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:31:28 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Parallels Between Jesus and Krishna — A Refutation of Acharya S by Researcher http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/the-parallels-between-jesus-and-krishna-a-refutation-of-acharya-s/#comment-582 Researcher Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:31:28 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=972#comment-582 Excellent work! You are a tremendous researcher! Excellent work!

You are a tremendous researcher!

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 7 by krissmith777 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-7/#comment-580 krissmith777 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:36:33 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-580 Bryan: <strong>"What about the other parts, such as the three stars pointing to the location to the east? "</strong> I already explained this in post 6 of my refutation of Zeitgeist. -- Linked here: http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-6/ <strong>"Or all of the other religious figures that share the same attributes? These seem to support the maker of Zeitgeist. "</strong> These false claims are refuted in parts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 of my refutation of Zeitgeist. -- Read my entire series before assuming that I didn't refute them. Here's the link that leads to all my posts: http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist/ <strong>"I also wonder if your refutations arent equally as fuzzy, such as the golden calf. Your supposition is no better than his."</strong> Uhhh, not really. Because I actually have a historical basis for my assumption. -- Peter Joseph, the maker of Zeitgeist, does not. Consider this: According to Exodus, when the Israelites made the golden calf, they had just come out of Egypt. So it is not illogical to suppose that the Calf was based on the Egyptian god Apis. <strong>"I also doubt that any scholar would say for a fact that the knowledge of the precession of the equinoxes absolutely did not exist before Hipparchus. "</strong> Then tell me why astronomers credit him with that discovery. -- If you doubt it, give the evidence. <strong>"Also how do you account for the many stories in the Bible that mirror much older stories written by pagans, such as the story of Noah and the great flood? Given the obvious mirroring (I am going to assume that even you wouldn't try to refute that) why would it be so out of line to assume that other parts of the Bible mirror pagan beliefs/knowledge/traditions?"</strong> The claim about Noah's flood was refuted in part 8 of my refutation. -- If it was copied from the Gilgamesh epic, as Zeitgeist claims, then one should expect literary dependence -- That is, word similarities, and similar sentences and expressions. I READ THE GILGAMESH FLOOD STORY!!! -- There ARE similar details, but THERE IS NO LITERARY DEPENDENCE, and that indicates that the scribe who wrote the Genesis flood story DID NOT copy the story from GILGAMESH. More likely, they had a common source. Everything you have brought up has been refuted in my other posts on Zeitgeist. Read my other posts before you assume I don't cover those topics. Bryan:

“What about the other parts, such as the three stars pointing to the location to the east? “

I already explained this in post 6 of my refutation of Zeitgeist. — Linked here: http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-6/

“Or all of the other religious figures that share the same attributes? These seem to support the maker of Zeitgeist. “

These false claims are refuted in parts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 of my refutation of Zeitgeist. — Read my entire series before assuming that I didn’t refute them.
Here’s the link that leads to all my posts:

http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist/

“I also wonder if your refutations arent equally as fuzzy, such as the golden calf. Your supposition is no better than his.”

Uhhh, not really. Because I actually have a historical basis for my assumption. — Peter Joseph, the maker of Zeitgeist, does not.

Consider this: According to Exodus, when the Israelites made the golden calf, they had just come out of Egypt. So it is not illogical to suppose that the Calf was based on the Egyptian god Apis.

“I also doubt that any scholar would say for a fact that the knowledge of the precession of the equinoxes absolutely did not exist before Hipparchus. “

Then tell me why astronomers credit him with that discovery. — If you doubt it, give the evidence.

“Also how do you account for the many stories in the Bible that mirror much older stories written by pagans, such as the story of Noah and the great flood? Given the obvious mirroring (I am going to assume that even you wouldn’t try to refute that) why would it be so out of line to assume that other parts of the Bible mirror pagan beliefs/knowledge/traditions?”

The claim about Noah’s flood was refuted in part 8 of my refutation. — If it was copied from the Gilgamesh epic, as Zeitgeist claims, then one should expect literary dependence — That is, word similarities, and similar sentences and expressions. I READ THE GILGAMESH FLOOD STORY!!! — There ARE similar details, but THERE IS NO LITERARY DEPENDENCE, and that indicates that the scribe who wrote the Genesis flood story DID NOT copy the story from GILGAMESH. More likely, they had a common source.

Everything you have brought up has been refuted in my other posts on Zeitgeist. Read my other posts before you assume I don’t cover those topics.

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 7 by Bryan http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-7/#comment-579 Bryan Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:36:29 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-579 What about the other parts, such as the three stars pointing to the location to the east? Or all of the other religious figures that share the same attributes? These seem to support the maker of Zeitgeist. I also wonder if your refutations arent equally as fuzzy, such as the golden calf. Your supposition is no better than his. I also doubt that any scholar would say for a fact that the knowledge of the precession of the equinoxes absolutely did not exist before Hipparchus. Also how do you account for the many stories in the Bible that mirror much older stories written by pagans, such as the story of Noah and the great flood? Given the obvious mirroring (I am going to assume that even you wouldn't try to refute that) why would it be so out of line to assume that other parts of the Bible mirror pagan beliefs/knowledge/traditions? What about the other parts, such as the three stars pointing to the location to the east? Or all of the other religious figures that share the same attributes? These seem to support the maker of Zeitgeist.

I also wonder if your refutations arent equally as fuzzy, such as the golden calf. Your supposition is no better than his.

I also doubt that any scholar would say for a fact that the knowledge of the precession of the equinoxes absolutely did not exist before Hipparchus.

Also how do you account for the many stories in the Bible that mirror much older stories written by pagans, such as the story of Noah and the great flood? Given the obvious mirroring (I am going to assume that even you wouldn’t try to refute that) why would it be so out of line to assume that other parts of the Bible mirror pagan beliefs/knowledge/traditions?

]]> Comment on Walking on water — Jesus and a Buddhist by krissmith777 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/walking-on-water-jesus-and-a-buddhist/#comment-578 krissmith777 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:56:06 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=831#comment-578 Thank you. This comment is helpfull. Thank you. This comment is helpfull.

]]> Comment on Walking on water — Jesus and a Buddhist by Yoeuy Chhung http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/walking-on-water-jesus-and-a-buddhist/#comment-577 Yoeuy Chhung Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:13:22 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=831#comment-577 There are many Buddhists stories that parrallel to the Bible. But that is not the point. One thing I have to say is that no one can possess the knowledge that Jesus has without meditation. When the mind leap out of the defilement one can see the coin both sides in three demension. The pure mind or the enlightend mind in itself is Dharma or the Western call God. Dharm exist in two states that is condition and unconditioned. When Buddha or Jesus Christ alive they can go in and out of these two states at ease. But when they passed away they only exist in uncoditioned state and we are the searcher of this unconditioned is in the condtion. That why what Buddha say is the core of the truth when he said "all codition thing is decay" and eventually lead to suffering and soulessness. There are many Buddhists stories that parrallel to the Bible. But that is not the point. One thing I have to say is that no one can possess the knowledge that Jesus has without meditation. When the mind leap out of the defilement one can see the coin both sides in three demension. The pure mind or the enlightend mind in itself is Dharma or the Western call God. Dharm exist in two states that is condition and unconditioned. When Buddha or Jesus Christ alive they can go in and out of these two states at ease. But when they passed away they only exist in uncoditioned state and we are the searcher of this unconditioned is in the condtion. That why what Buddha say is the core of the truth when he said “all codition thing is decay” and eventually lead to suffering and soulessness.

]]> Comment on Walking on water — Jesus and a Buddhist by Yoeuy Chhung http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/walking-on-water-jesus-and-a-buddhist/#comment-576 Yoeuy Chhung Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:55:00 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=831#comment-576 Sariputta is no his real name. His real name is Upatissa. His father name Sari. His name mean the son of Sari. Sariputta is one of the chief disciple of Buddha. Among Buddha disciple he is one of the most remarkable individual, in time of Buddha living Buddha gave title of Dhammasenapati to Sariputta. Buddha compare Sariputta to the son of Universal Monarch who every right to take the thron when the right time come. Sariputta is no his real name. His real name is Upatissa. His father name Sari. His name mean the son of Sari. Sariputta is one of the chief disciple of Buddha. Among Buddha disciple he is one of the most remarkable individual, in time of Buddha living Buddha gave title of Dhammasenapati to Sariputta. Buddha compare Sariputta to the son of Universal Monarch who every right to take the thron when the right time come.

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Introduction by The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 « Debunking Atheism http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-introduction/#comment-575 The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 « Debunking Atheism Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:37:51 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=112#comment-575 [...] Defending the Theistic View The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist « The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Introduction The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 2 [...] [...] Defending the Theistic View The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist « The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Introduction The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 2 [...]

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 by The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 2 « Debunking Atheism http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-1/#comment-574 The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist — Part 2 « Debunking Atheism Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:31:51 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=131#comment-574 [...] Defending the Theistic View The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist « The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist– Part 3 [...] [...] Defending the Theistic View The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist « The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist– Part 3 [...]

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 by krissmith777 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-1/#comment-572 krissmith777 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:31:42 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=131#comment-572 Lee Wylde Religoins "designed by deseases of the mind?" -- Nice. you are a perfect example of a secularist bigot. -- Religion is no more a mental illness than atheism. Lee Wylde

Religoins “designed by deseases of the mind?” — Nice. you are a perfect example of a secularist bigot. — Religion is no more a mental illness than atheism.

]]> Comment on The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist – Part 1 by LEE WYLDE http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-myth-of-jesus-a-refutation-of-the-zeitgeist-part-1/#comment-571 LEE WYLDE Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:20:01 +0000 http://explanationblog.wordpress.com/?p=131#comment-571 All religions are the same, they are a designed desease of the mind manufactured by men to explain unexplained phenomena and to divide men so that they may be conquered by those in charge. Remember they are all similar but all so different, they are all so contradicting so that men who follow one rligion or another will contradict eachother and fight with eachother.The design of a pyramid was the subject of a principle and that principle is still upheld today. This principle is as follows: Imagine a pyramid with the richest and most advanced of society living at the top. These people would be fewer than those at the bottom because there was less room at the top and at the very top would be the king or god that would be worshipped. Now come back to today and Imagine social classes as parts of a pyramid with bankers and politicians and world leaders at the top and very poor and working cass at the bottom. You see? pyramids are still being buit today, you just can't see them and religion is just another invisible force that keeps the people that make the pyramid work in their places. All religions are the same, they are a designed desease of the mind manufactured by men to explain unexplained phenomena and to divide men so that they may be conquered by those in charge. Remember they are all similar but all so different, they are all so contradicting so that men who follow one rligion or another will contradict eachother and fight with eachother.The design of a pyramid was the subject of a principle and that principle is still upheld today.
This principle is as follows: Imagine a pyramid with the richest and most advanced of society living at the top. These people would be fewer than those at the bottom because there was less room at the top and at the very top would be the king or god that would be worshipped. Now come back to today and Imagine social classes as parts of a pyramid with bankers and politicians and world leaders at the top and very poor and working cass at the bottom. You see? pyramids are still being buit today, you just can’t see them and religion is just another invisible force that keeps the people that make the pyramid work in their places.

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